The 1980s military toy line Eagle Force returns as a modern articulated line of 4" action figures.
Latest Updates from Our Project:
14 days ago
– Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 11:07:06 PM
I hope you all had a great start to the New Year. We are really looking forward to 2020, as we’ll be able to finally get Eagle Force complete and move on to future waves. Below is an update to our delivery timeline, update on Eagle Island and a few odds and ends.
We just got our new detailed production schedule from the factory, it’s outlined below.
Jan 1- 31 - Revising samples to meet expectations
Feb 1-25 - Chinese New Year - Factory closed for holiday
Feb 28 - Deco samples ready for approval
March 15 - Sample revisions complete
March 16 - May 4 - Manufacturing
May 5 - Product inspection
May 15 - First shipment to US
June 9 - 20 - Delivery arrives in our warehouse, inspect delivery and sort for shipment
June 22 - Fulfillment begins
This is subject to change, but from talking to folks at The Four Horseman and Zica, who are currently using this factory, they said things can shift a week or 2 but they have always found the factory schedules to be pretty much on target. Our Project Manager Chris is on board to help us get to the finish line and we’ll of course continue to keep everyone updated as well go. If things shift around you’ll be the first to know.
I wish we could speed this up, but the new factory is basically revising a lot of what Tiandeng Liu did so we’ll have a quality product. We have over 25 figures in this assortment and they are 100% committed to making it right for our backers. They are excited to do more waves so they want to get us the best possible figures in hopes you’ll continue to back & collect the line as we move forward.
I know this has been a long road but thanks for sticking with us on this. I’m confident that we’ll deliver a great line of figures this year that will pave the way for future assortments.
Eagle Island Update
The Eagle Island Playsets have started to ship. If you ordered an Eagle Island playset, please be on the look out for an address confirmation email from D&J Toys. D&J Toys will not ship without confirming your address, so please keep an eye on your inbox. If you have any questions you can contact directly D&J Toys at <J_man_la@yahoo.com>
Odds and Ends
Some folks have asked about the future of Eagle Force Returns, Eagle Force Classic, Monster Force, Heroes vs Villains and Ninja Force. I have decided to keep Eagle Force under Fresh Monkey Fiction for 2020, this will take us through fulfillment and we’ll launch on new Kickstarter in Q4 2020 that combine all the Eagle Force lines into an overall assortment. Depending on how well fulfillment and post fulfillment sales go, we’ll offer some of the figures we’ve shown for wave 2 as pre-orders. Not much more to say around this at the moment, but I’ll start posting images of what’s to come on social media towards the summer, these will be labeled as concepts and we’ll be looking for your feedback as to what figures make it to future waves.
Also, as mentioned in previous updates, I have decided to license some of my 3D asset library and steel tooling to a couple other indy toy companies for a few different projects in 2020, one of which will be our Project Manager Chris’s new start up. This will not hold up production of Eagle Force or Hama figures, but will enable me to recoup some costs that I’ll need to finish this line since Tiandeng Liu did not refund any of the funds we paid to him. So you might see some familiar parts, like heads, bodies or accessories show up in other lines. These other companies will be using the same factory we are using, so the upside here is any new parts they do will be accessible and compatible with Eagle Force, so it’ll help bring more variety to the line as we move ahead in the back half of 2020.
Thanks again everyone, here’s to an awesome 2020!!
Fresh Monkey Fiction
28 days ago
– Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 09:49:27 PM
The new factory as completed it’s assessment of the mess that was left by Tiandeng Liu. Here are a few images from them trying to make sure we have what we need to move forward.
They are going to have to reproduce many of the pieces that Tiandeng Liu did not do correctly and manufacture things that he did not complete when we moved everything over, such as weapons, upper and lower arms, new joints, heads and hands. Also a lot of the paint decos were damaged or incorrect so they have to redo that as well.
We don’t have a new date yet, but progress is being made. They’ll start making the corrections in January but Chinese New Year is in February and all manufacturing in China closes down for a month, so don’t expect many updates in February. My best guess is we’re looking at May for delivery, but until they get me a schedule I can’t be sure. I will say that once we have the new schedule the factory will stick to it as I have used them on my Amazing Heroes project and they have met and exceeded every expectation. They’ll send images along the way, and as I have them I’ll be posting them.
They did send me some test shots that they received from Tiandeng Liu when we moved over the project.
We did show some images of our originally planed Wave 2 at Designer Con.
These are still very much a work-in-progress and have been sitting on a shelf for well over a year. Some folks seem to be interested in seeing them so we brought them out for display. The status of these is very much ON HOLD for now, but I thought many of you might want to see them.
Happy Holidays and have a happy New Year. More updates in 2020 as we get closer to the finish line.
Thanks again for sticking with us.
Fresh Monkey Fiction
More progress on the factory front.
2 months ago
– Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 10:55:51 PM
Here is the latest news on the factory front.
Over the last couple weeks our Project Mgr Chris (who is in China as I type this) and his team have begun to pull back the layers around why this project has been stalled. It seems that Tiandeng Liu sub-contracted most of this project to other factories, this is not new information but the details became very clear as Tiandeng Liu started to discuss the challenges with Chris and he mentioned what Tiandeng Liu referred to as "The Fat Man" (I cannot make this stuff up, even if I wanted too) . Anyway it seems the "The Fat Man" is the one that controls all the subcontracting work, and this is why this project is stalled. Tiandeng Liu and Fat Man had a falling out and The Fat Man has not prioritized this project over other jobs he has on his plate. Tiandeng Liu was never honest about this which is why all kept telling us unrealistic timelines.
With all that said, we have some exciting news to report. Chris and his team have been able to acquire all the manufactured pieces and packaging from both Tiandeng Liu and The Fat Man. See images.
So what are next steps?
Chris and his team have to make sense of everything they have recovered. It's like doing a 1000 piece puzzle without having the box to reference what it's suppose to look like when its done. They have the pieces, paint tools and the samples, now they need to make sense of it. I'm sure parts will be missing or need to be redone or reworked, we don't even know all the parts were manufactured, it's a mess. All that said, at least it's moving ahead and I'm 100% confident that they will be able to make sense of it all over the next few weeks.
After years of working with Tiandeng Liu he is finally in our rear window. This was yet another huge step forward to getting this project back on track. I can't say enough how grateful I am to Chris and his team. This would not have happened without them. More to come.
For those of you attending Designer Con in Los Angeles, we will have a booth again this year. We'll have some new product from our Amazing Heroes line including a Madman exclusive, plus paint masters for Eagle Force Wave 2. If you are at the show please come by and say "hello". I'd be happy to enlighten you with more details of the factory challenges and answer any questions you might have.
Tooling testing update
3 months ago
– Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 06:43:28 PM
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3 months ago
– Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 07:36:05 PM
Finally the Eagle has landed, we have recovered our tooling and I can be a bit more open with what’s been going on behind the scenes.
To start meet Tiandeng Liu.
This is the factory manager for both our Eagle Force and Larry Hama figures and is the reason we do not have our toys. This post will echo the post of Spero Toy’s AWOK line who is also using Tiandeng Liu to produce their line of action figures.
Tiandeng Liu has not been able to deliver on his commitments for completing either of our Eagle Force or Larry Hama projects. He has been paid to finalize production but currently takes anywhere from 7 to 15 days just to reply to our messages, oftentimes leaving us in the dark as to what is going on. It's important to understand this was not always the case. Throughout most of the process he was very responsive, completed the initial run of the AWOK line on time, and revised our tooling (which he recognized as his mistake) so we could scale up our figures to be proper 1/18th size.
However, once we paid him for production this all changed. Over the last year he started to drop the ball again and again. After we got our new Project Manager (Chris Gawrych, who currently also handles development and production for Four Horsemen Studios) and his local team on the ground involved, it seemed to get worse. He became even more closed off, refused to communicate, and wouldn’t move the project forward to meet our agreed upon timelines. It even got to the point where Tiandeng Liu would be hardpressed to commit to any specific deadlines. Spero Toys (as well as few other companies we know about) began to have similar challenges.
Currently we are taking the stand that Tiandeng Liu is holding our project, funds and property hostage. He has admitted that he has not completed the manufacturing for all the parts needed to complete final assembly. This has been confirmed by Chris's team as they have visited the assembly factory several times and found many figures 1/2 completed while the factory waits for the remaining parts to be delivered by Tiandeng Liu so the project can be finalized.
Although Tiandeng Liu has recently apologized for the delays, he has not been able to provide any updated images or timelines, only a new proposed delivery date of late January 2020. This of course if unacceptable but we have had little recourse as he has refused to return any funds we have paid him or turn over our tooling to Chris and his new factory. Over the last 8 weeks we have been trying to negotiate with him, including Chris's team visiting him in person on a few occasions. Three weeks ago he finally agreed to hand over the tooling, however he missed the initial date that was agreed upon, so we had a new target date of last Friday to pick up the tooling. I’m happy to report, we now finally have our tooling in hand. See image.
This is a huge win for us, as we’ve basically been in hostage negotiations for over 2 months. Until last night he held our biggest asset, the steel tooling. I’ve had to be very careful how we navigated this situation, including not being vocal online or to our backers, because at any point Tiandeng Liu could easily damage our tooling and we’d not be able to recover anything. Just so everyone understands, the steel tooling is our most expensive asset and also the most volatile. We have 9 steel tools and any one of them can easily be damaged, by even something as minor as a key scratch. Now that we have the tooling I can be more open about where we stand.
What does this mean for the future of these projects? Recovering the tooling is a major 1st step to finally completing this project. Now that we have secured the tooling the plan is for Chris's team to test the tooling, finalize any remaining pieces that need to be manufactured and supply those to the assembly factory for final assembly and delivery. This all needs to be analyzed and negotiated with the assembly factory and logistically will take some time to figure out. Chris will be flying to China in early November to oversee this process. We'll keep in lock step with updates when we have them.
I know this is not the news anyone wants to hear. It’s a cluster and I have tried night and day, every day for the last 3 years to avoid this nightmare, but sadly these are the types of situations that can happen when working in China. I have lost a significant amount of personal funds, outside of the funds we raised on Kickstarter, and my business and reputation have been ruined by Tiandeng Liu. It’s not lost on me that this situation has impacted others who want to use Kickstarter as a platform, and for all of that I am truly sorry.
Tiandeng Liu has our funds and all we can do is try to take ownership over this situation as best we can to finalize the manufacturing and get our figures completed by the end of the year. We are also considering contacting the local authorities to report Tiandeng Liu, but we have been advised that at this stage this might not have an impact and could cause further delays.
For those of you who are contemplating a kickstarter and working with China, let this be a strong lesson that it can be a nightmare. No matter how much blood, sweat and tears you put into dotting the “i”s and crossing the “t”s, the factory holds all the cards.
I know many of you are passionate about Eagle Force and would like to see the line continue. As my business and reputation has now been ruined thanks to Tiandeng Liu, I more than likely will close Fresh Monkey Ficiton, so I have been negotiating to pass this property to other creators who are interested in expanding/revising the line once we have delivered on the commitment to this kickstarter. More to follow on that in 2020.